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Did anyone see this on Stephen Amell’s Facebook?
These are good news for non-olicity shippers…
A few hours ago, some Olicity fan posted this photo saying “Never say nerver Mr. Stephen Amell. =)”. And she got this answer:”that’s not an answer to the question, that’s an answer to a question about s3.”!!!!
What??!!Hopes up! I feel optimistic again! Olicity is not forever, thanks God!!!!

I think Stephen was pretty severely admonished by the showrunners after “these ships have sailed” comment….

I still don’t understand how anyone could have interpreted “this year” to mean “forever” LOL.

No I didn’t see this FB post, as I rarely go on that page - ‘cause it’s always a train wreck from Olicity fans. I hope now after his rant, fans that follow are more respectful.

Anyway, I bet he would have got in trouble for making that kind of statement, it would have to be the number 1 big No-No of TV. I certainly hope that O&F is only for this season, as I can’t imagine Green Arrow and Black Canary working together and never having any kind of romantic relationship. Green Arrow wouldn’t be able to stop himself.

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Anonymous asked:

What is this Arrow poster?

theapplefour:

While I might agree with a lot of what you said, as you have posted this in the Arrow tag, I do take exception to one of your comments.

myherocomplex:

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This is the poster in question, Anon.  Shortly after its release, fans on SA’s FB page started posting their own altered versions, mostly, I believe, coming from a good place, knowing that he enjoys memes and fan-art.

Unfortunately, many people who don’t like Laurel, felt that either she and Digg should have switched places (showcasing “the original Team Arrow”), or that she shouldn’t be on the poster at all.  So of course, the fan-altered posters that moved Laurel or re-moved her induced a lot of vitriolic comments from Laurel haters out there.  Unsurprisingly, Stephen was less-than amused.

So those are the facts, Anon.  And here’s my opinion: the people spouting hate like that ought to be totally ashamed of themselves.  You can dislike a character. Absolutely.  YOU ARE ENTITLED TO DISLIKE A CHARACTER.  Personally?  I don’t hate Laurel, per se, but she does get on my nerves a lot.  And there have been plenty of other shows I’ve watched where I did hate a character, but it would never…never occur to me to bash that actor to one of his/her co-stars the way that people were bashing Katie Cassidy to SA.

What did these people expect?  That Stephen Amell—who has shown us time and again what a decent man and caring coworker he is—wouldn’t step up to defend his castmate?  Really?  Or perhaps they don’t care either way.  Which just makes it worse because then it’s not just misguided, it’s genuine second-class behavior.  It’s the kind of people who want to be mean just for the sake of being mean.  It’s the kind of people who tried to make the other kids cry back in 7th grade.  Hell, some of them probably are 7th graders who get their kicks making their classmates cry because their self-esteem is so non-existent that the only way to attempt to feel good about themselves is to insure that no one else does.

As for the poster?  My personal reaction was, “YAY POSTER!  I’M SO EXCITED FOR SEASON 3!!!”  And then, after studying it a little more, I was excited that they placed Felicity in the position of his “right-hand girl.”  And yeah, even as a die-hard Felicity/Olicity fan who doesn’t care for Laurel much, I was excited about the implied prospect of Laurel being more involved in Oliver’s crusade (because I like has-her-shit-together Laurel.  It’s falling-apart-blaming-everyone-else Laurel who pisses me off.).

Then, admittedly, I was also a little let-down by the poster.  The Flash’s Season 1 poster was brilliant.  Brilliant.  It captured the essence of the character, had dozens of Easter eggs hidden in it for comic-book fans, and had a very stylized, artistic quality to it, which really paid homage to the comic book origin of the story.  The Arrow poster, by comparison, was disappointing.  It just doesn’t feel as creative to me.

And that’s just my personal opinion/scrutiny/critique of the poster.  Other people might have loved it.  I don’t know.  I don’t particularly care.

Sorry for the rant, Anon, but this kind of behavior from people is inexcusable in my opinion, and I think Stephen Amell was completely justified in requesting people not send him altered posters because of the negativity.

"It’s falling-apart-blaming-everyone-else Laurel who pisses me off"

Well you are entitled to your opinion, but frankly Laurel didn’t blame everyone… she really just blamed Sara. And IMHO she had bloody good reason to do so. It wasn’t because she got on the boat with Oliver, Laurel had forgiven her in season one, when she said that she missed her and wanted her back, but that was never gonna happen… Laurel was pissed off because Sara made her family suffer in misery for 6 years thinking she was dead when she could have at some point let them know she was alive and well, without necessarily revealing what she was doing. No instead she kept silent, all the while the family broke up, parents divorced, mother became estranged from her only surviving daughter, father became an alcoholic and Laurel was left to defend and take it all on. So i was glad Laurel got angry, she had every right to be.

She was also pissed at Sara and Oliver appearing to be flaunting a relationship in front of her when fences are trying to be mended. The only other person Laurel blamed was herself. So not exactly everyone. And you know what, Laurel apologised- something we are still yet to hear from Sara, but I doubt we will ever hear those words. But then Laurel is the better person.

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Anonymous asked:

I'm a woman and I don't like Laurel Lance. I'm not going to go into a long post regarding my reasons because each person is entitled to their own opinion. I saw the post insinuating that the hate for Laurel is misogynistic. For some people, I'm sure it is. But please acknowledge that you can have valid reasons for not being a fan female character without the label of antifeminist or misogynistic. I'm finding it hard to find the right words, but I hope this makes sense.

theapplefour:

rosietwiggs:

I’m not really sure what you want me to tell you, anon.

I legit have no idea who you are, I know nothing about you, and I know nothing about your reasons for disliking Laurel.

What I DO know, is that the hatred for Laurel Lance started pretty much the second Felicity Smoak showed up on the show.

Why does that matter?

Well, it matters because the source of the hatred, where it all came from, regardless of who jumped on the bandwagon for whatever reasons afterwards, was ship related. People started hating Laurel once another viable option as Oliver’s love interest appeared on the scene. And I italicized that because it’s gross. It’s gross because the initial reason people started hating on a female character was because they saw her as nothing more than a love interest for the male protagonist, and when another love interest showed up, they could discard her. Both women were not important beyond their relevance to Oliver Queen’s dick.

Yes, we all fell in love with Felicity’s spark, with her babbling, with that chemistry. But that was after, and the speed with which people cast off Laurel Lance and interchanged her with Felicity was astounding. And from then on it didn’t matter what Laurel did. It didn’t matter because people thought if they ended up liking her, if they ended up being supportive of her, then their precious ship might never happen. How could Felicity and Oliver possibly end up together if Laurel wasn’t completely despised by everyone in the fandom?

I remember getting an anonymous ask from an olicity fan raging at me because I was trying to trend #olicitersforlaurel to show that we supported her, while still loving our own ship. She was angry, because how dare I speak for all oliciters - how could I possibly do this? Did I not understand that saying we like Laurel might end up hurting the chances for olicity?

What a fucking load of garbage.

So here’s what it boils down to.

You may not hate Laurel for misogynistic reasons, whatever. But you need to understand that the source of Laurel hate is steeped in misogyny and sexism. That is important. And I’m going to say something really controversial here and say that I believe that any hatred of Laurel, for whatever reason the fan who hates her gives as an excuse, at it’s core has at least a seed of that sexism that I am trying so hard to battle against. I don’t believe anyone who hates her has completely valid reasons.

Moreover, the issue of Laurel Lance has become so loaded, the hatred so common, that we need to fight extra hard to turn the tables, to call out the aggression and gross opinions every chance we get. We need to make it stop. We need to protect Laurel at all costs - and it IS a feminist issue now, because - and I’m going to quote jaegermighty here: when a character gets as much hate as Laurel does, everything means more.

So sorry. You’re not going to get absolution from me. If you were messaging me so that I would tell you, “Oh, well, you don’t hate her because of the things I am angry about, then you’re okay. You can go on hating her anon,” then you’re in for disappointment. Please, stop sending me asks like these - asks explaining why your hatred is okay, why you are one of the entitled few who can be allowed to hate her. I’ve gotten so many and I don’t want to hear about it. You want to hate Laurel Lance? Do it quietly. Because every time you talk about it, you make the problem worse. You convince yourself it’s okay, and you tell your followers it’s okay too. And their “reasons” won’t be as wholesome as you think yours are. 

I want anyone who hates Laurel to look very closely at the reasons why. Why do you hate her so much? When did you start hating her? What specific events made you hate her? Examine your reasons for feeling the way you do, and do it unflinchingly. I dare you.

You won’t like what you find. 

Standing ovation for that anon reply! Thank you for standing for a character that deserves so much. 

While the hate for Laurel grew, my love and support and intensified. The reasons that people have listed time and time again, clearly show under current mysgonisim, sexism, double standards, immaturity and a complete lack of empathy. I currently share with someone who has been abused, clinically depressed and who has tried to take her own life, so when I see dumb ass posts about Laurel I am freaking furious. The way she described her depression is a foggy hole that you can see no out of and no energy to fight it. So for Laurel to continue to fight for what was right in the middle of depression shows what a fighter and a truly strong woman she is.

You go girl and I will be standing right beside you all the way. Go Laurel!

EXCLUSIVE: Director John Suits on His Strange Comic-Book Movie:The Scribbler

theapplefour:

There’s a comic-book movie opening tomorrow, but it’s not like any others that have come out this year.

Katie Cassidy,Arrow’s Laurel Lance, stretches her acting muscles and her body while shedding clothes to play Suki, a troubled girl with multiple personalities, including one who apparently leaves backwards-written messages on her skin and furniture. Using a new experimental technique, her doctors try to eliminate her extra selves from her head one by one - but what if Suki herself is one of the fake personalities?

Set in a surreal, colorful world where scribbles appear on the skin and colors shift like moods, this is a unique film with many modern scream queens like Sasha Grey, Eliza Dushku, Gina Gershon, Michelle Trachtenberg and Ashlynn Yennie. But the director can explain it better than I can…

LYT: So how many of the cast were the process of a whole bunch of meetings, and how many were first choice, right there?

JS: A lot of them were first choices, and so we got really lucky that way. There definitely were some times where there would be a certain person, and we’d go, like, “Oh, that’s an interesting idea. I’m not sure,” and then you’d have the meeting and meet with them, and get blown out of the water, and go “Oh my gosh, this is them!” I hadn’t seen that side of them, but then you meet them and see what they’re like, and if they can really do it. It might be different than what they’ve done before, content-wise, but that they were - I was really impressed with a lot of our cast - the understanding the material that they brought to it. It was really neat.

With Katie, there was a lot of character building that we did together, and a lot of it that she just did alone, where she researched it and really - she went to a mental institution and was watching people with dissociative identity disorder, and trying to identify the personalities. It was a much more involved process, so it was really cool from that aspect, to watch the work and sort of, in a lot of case, just sort of have to guide or encourage it, but they’re doing so much on their own.

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